Soonergirl, if you're assuming that I'm a supporter of Terri Horman, you are wrong
Posted by Soonergirl, a moderator at Tamara Merrill's StillStanding forum - posted at StillStanding:
I have banned Lemonade per her request as well as her breach in my warning to stop this type distraction from this forum. I am leaving her post for all to see. If you feel the same way as Lemonade, please send me a message (it can remain private) and I will delete you as well. I will say it again. THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ON THIS FORUM. If you choose to believe lies from THSPers and those working against Kyron, that is YOUR CHOICE. However, I will not tolerate it here. Below is a classic example of the lies being spread. The THSPers try to infiltrate a group and attempt to tear it apart. This has been their MO since back on GLP.
Soonergirl
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Good for you, Lemonade, for getting the hell out of Guyana. I hope others will follow your lead.
Notice how Soonergirl casts all of Tamara Merrill's critics as Terri Horman supporters. Tamara tells her followers that she's "for Kyron." Therefore, anyone who doesn't agree with Tamara's actions is "against Kyron." According to Tamara's logic, the author of this blog is "against Kyron."
Wouldn't it be so simple if I were just some oaf supporting Terri Horman? It would make this whole situation much easier to digest, that some person who supports Terri Horman is out to get the people who hate Terri Horman, simply because he hate Terri Horman.
That's not the truth, though. I don't have an ounce of doubt the Terri Horman took Kyron from the school and killed him, and that she plotted an elaborate plan to kidnap and kill him. I think that she's a disgusting piece of subhuman filth, a bully, and a child killer.
I hate bullies more than I hate just about anything on this planet, except for child molesters and child killers.
SoCal is a bully. Chana is a bully. Marybeth Schaeffer is a bully. And the people who enable bullies - whether through silence or active support - are as bad as the bullies themselves.
Marybeth Schaeffer is still posting supportively of Terri Horman at Facebook, as Heidi Brooks. Why would I want to reveal her identities - she being a Terri Horman supporter - if I'm a Terri Horman supporter?
You SoCal sycophants have about the same ability to think objectively about a situation as did Jim Jones' followers. You are your own little cult, Tamara Merrill is your messiah, and the Still-Standing forum is your Guyana utopia.
Don't doubt the master. When she tells you that she's not Tamara Merrill, then you should ask no questions, or you'll be banned. She expects you to stay loyal, drink her poison, and go down with her.
My advice to those of you who have doubt about the Kool-Aid Tamara is serving is to get out while you can, before she targets you as she has others - many others. When you signed up at her forum, you did not sign a loyalty oath. It's not too late to walk away from her. However, word of warning - she will eventually take action against you, just as she has others. She'll harass you and encourage others to do the same. She'll set up fake identities in your name on the internet to cause you real-life trauma. That's the kind of upstanding person she is. Don't believe me? Look what she's done to other people who challenged her views and behavior.
She has your IP address. She has your email address. She knows where you live (that's why she wanted your IP address) and she knows your internet history (that's why she wanted your email address). Why do you think that she set up all these forums anyway? You are her sucker, and now you're in a stressful position: do I walk away and endure what I've seen Tamara do to other people, or do I stay even though I know that Scam Girl Blog is right about her?
Tough choice.
(You can read the whole thread from Tamara's StillStanding forum in the comments on this blog post.)
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blue: I have a message that will hopefully get out to a few of you. I know there are people here that copy and paste this stuff.
ReplyDeleteCC, Mia, & Cat. I posted with all of you guys for a long time, especially CC. CC I think you got to know me pretty well and I would hope that you know that I have always been honest with all of you guys. I actually thought you were my friends.
Now I find out that there are threats being made that if I (in general) keep posting here, my personal identification and that of my family's will be plastered all over the internet. I respect the privacy of others and I hope that the decent people will respect mine as well.
Although I have nothing to hide, no criminal record, no trouble with the law, no aliases,etc, I think I should have the right to post anonymously. CC, I'm sure you know that there are people online who stalk others.
Does this make you guys happy that these threats are being made? Don't I have the right to post where I want to post and believe what I want to believe? I respect your rights to do the same. I would never reveal personal information or private conversations on any of you guys. Ever. Our families have nothing to do with this. Do your families? No, they don't. How can you guys be ok with the stuff that is being done? I really want to now how this can be justified.
Would you want your families' information plastered on the internet just because you made a choice to post on a website? Maybe I have a little more infomation than can be obtained by hacking and searching and am basing my decisions off of that. It's my right, just as it's your right to leave and post where ever you want without having somebody threatening or harassing you.
That is all.
ETA - And just as I said many pages back on this thread, if these people will do it to SoCal, they will do it to me too. Turns out I was right. They'll do it to you too, if you make them mad and do something they disagree with. If someone will do something to one person, they will do it to another. That's a fact.
One more thing to you guys, I think what's been done already to innocent people who have nothing to do with this is repulsive. It makes me sick to think that people actually think it's ok. I can understand the THSPers doing this stuff because they are trying to deflect and help Terri avoid prosecution from hurting poor little Kyron. I will never understand how any people other than WIKT and Rita could be ok with this stuff. It's very sad. I don't care who you think lied to you or about what, there is no way that this is the right way to handle it.
What goes around comes around. I guess it's ok if it happens to someone you dislike. I guess that makes it right. It's truly sickening.
hopefullove: so you all know what beach/blue is talking about.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: When should you worry about your own past behavior and identities (especially if you hid behind an alt) coming to light?
Answer: When I'm nowhere to be found. If I'm not on Facebook or here on the blog, working (surprise, I'm in IT) or sleeping (usually at night, but not always), then that means I'm busy. That means I'm digging, digging, digging. Today I'm digging. Fair warning.
Posted by scamgirladmin at 12:59 PM
IMO only TMH supporters are working hard to keep our mouths shut. I for one say Kyron can not speak for himself and i will not quit speaking out for him! Now has any one ever heard if kyrons bag was packed like he was actually going to his moms for the weekend?
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annalytic: After I saw your post, I went to FB to see what was going on.
Good Lord, Blue. These people are seriously sick in the head. Could these men and women sit down with their families - tell them what they've been up to - and be proud of what they're doing?
Every single one them posting personal information should and WILL be reported to law enforcement.
Enough.
blahblahblah: The FBI is involved with this investigation. They easily would be able to develop personal information on anyone posting to the forums and Facebook, and they keep the information forever. When do open records become open after an investigation? Could be interesting.
ReplyDeleteThe crazies have their own agenda, and I doubt few care about TH and DD, much less Kyron. Anything they do will not affect the investigation, but some who have direct connections with TH and DD may be invited for a chat with LE, and some may have their information and actions accidentally leaked to the press. Could be fun.
Do those who are publishing personal information on others fall under internet stalking laws?
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annalytic:
Next up:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scam-Girl-Blog/167284703326697?sk=wall
On each post, hover on the post and an "X" will pop up to the right of the post.
Click the "X", then click "report abuse", then click "contains hate speech or attacks an individual".
Abuse reports are anonymous and hate speech gets among top priority at FB.
[b]Socal rallies her troops: what they are demanding is surrender...surrender. one thing I can say for Terri is that she has herself some dedicated supporters...desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose...as far as I know this is one of the last pro Kyron boards still standing...sometimes I wonder if its worth it with all the hassle and harassment then I think of what has been done to Kyron, Kaine, and Desiree and yes, it is worth it...they cant surrender...I dont feel I can either...
ReplyDelete[maxx] This is not about bashing. The people in this forum -- good caring people have been lied to and manipulated for months. YOU have been lied to. Socal scammed everyone. Are you going to assist this scam by preventing people to discuss it? Does Socal not owe myself and everyone here an explanation for compromising our security, abusing our trust and playing with our emotions?[/b]
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blahblahblah: Pardon? Lied to? No one here has claimed they know the absolute truth, though there are many deductions that seem to lead to one, maybe two people. Scammed? Does not cost a penny to be here. I have been allowed to voice my thoughts that are not totally in sync with others. No one has shut me down. SoCal has not compromised my security. If she wants to know who I am, it would take her 30 seconds tops. I have not received numerous scamming emails from any sources since joining this forum. In fact, none. What trust issues? We're on the internet. No one here has played with my emotions, but we are discussing an emotional issue.
Maxx, do you need to be somewhere else? This may not be a suitable forum for you if you have so many issues with it. We are all free to leave at any time.
grainer: I sort of understand where you are coming from, Maxx... but, as my full name implies, I take EVERYTHING with a Grain of Salt.... I am on THIS forum, because there really weren't any places that allowed discussing of the case and talking about TMH's probable (IMO) guilt without being bashed for it. From the beginning, those FB groups seemed like crazy places - I didn't appreciate or respect all the bashing, or the lynch mob mentality. I wasn't out to burn TMH at the stake, only to discuss her involvement and wait for LE to suss out the facts. OL and SM were dominated by the ABT crowd. BOC spends all their time outing every hispanic in the Portland area. GLP was kind of a wild west - but it was more comfortable than those other places. Then we got kicked out of there, and started the series of forums that resulted in us being here.
I am not here for or because of SoCal. I am here to discuss Kyron's disappearance, a sweet little boy whose fate is a mystery.
SoCal can speak for herself - but, as an admin on THIS forum, I don't want the SoCal bashing going on here - there are plenty of other places for that.
I respectfully ask that you not try to use THIS forum for that purpose.
flutter: Good freakin grief.
ReplyDeleteThis is the INTERNET. Enter at your own risk.
Most of us are mature adults with the power to discern fact from fiction and use our reasoning skills to determine what we choose to believe.
Tell me Maxx -- why on earth should I believe you over SoCal? You are both anonymous posters on the internet, which means you are entirely equal in terms of information provided to me. I can choose to believe what I want, based on logic and deduction.
People can only scam me, abuse my trust and play with my emotions if I let them.
Grow up, Maxx -- stop being a victim.
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hope: I have to speak up in my house here. NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO TO DEMND ANYTHING FROM ANYONE HERE! YOU NOR ANYONE ELSE WAS COMPROMISED. SMALL MINDS HAVE BIG EGOS! WHO THE HE.. do you think you or any of you other egos think you are?
NO ONE GRABBED YOU ALL BY THE NECK AND SAID SIGN UP HERE. YOU HAVE TO STAY HERE.
[32 beatspersecond] just wondering for a split second if maxx might be the maxx from the photos...
kyrons step-brother...
he is surely old enough to surf the web and find a chat room.
I, and I'm sure some others, may forget that sometimes.
not to say I believe it is him...but it gives me pause.
we never really know who is listening on the other end
and if we did know would we own our actions just the same?
Humility is not ..synonymous.. with Humanity
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blue: I agree Hope. This is the internet. It's up to each person to decide for herself or himself what to believe. I can process information just as well as the next person. However, instead of calling someone a liar, posting personal conversations and information online, hacking into accounts, and posting pictures of people's children, I simply ask the person. Who knew you didn't have to become an internet bully and do all that to get an answer?
There are only two people who I know with 100% certainty that they have outright lied on at least two occasions. Those people are WIKT and Rita. Other than that, I decide for myself based on actually talking to the people.
flutter: I stand by my comment.
ReplyDeleteThis is the internet. I don't believe everything I see here. If I did, I would believe that there is really a guy in Russia selling mini-giraffes as seen in the commercial on TV.
I take responsibility for making my own decisions and for where I go and what I do on the internet. I am the one who is accountable for my actions, not someone else.
If Maxx believes his/her security has been compromised, emotions played with, etc., then perhaps internet chat rooms are not the place he/she needs to be.
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soonergirl: i think i have said it before, but apparently not clear enough.
ENOUGH OF THIS GD FECAL WASTE! if you are not here to discuss KYRON or this case, LEAVE. this is about KYRON. i have told you before that if you wished to do it discretely then you may message me. if i see any more bashing i will not hesitate to ban.
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soonergirl: I have banned Lemonade per her request as well as her breach in my warning to stop this type distraction from this forum. I am leaving her post for all to see. If you feel the same way as Lemonade, please send me a message (it can remain private) and I will delete you as well. I will say it again. THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ON THIS FORUM. If you choose to believe lies from THSPers and those working against Kyron, that is YOUR CHOICE. However, I will not tolerate it here. Below is a classic example of the lies being spread. The THSPers try to infiltrate a group and attempt to tear it apart. This has been their MO since back on GLP.
Soonergirl
Lemonade: I believe that Maxx had a valid concerns and his/her questions were not actually addressed. To be honest, I couldn't care less as to the real identity of anyone that posts here or anywhere else. But when both sides of the 'core group' have admitted to multiple secret rooms and groups and reasons for these, then those who thought that we all were here for the same reason start to doubt what they have previously read.
ReplyDeleteThe same people who are saying to ignore what idiocy is happening over on FB are posting and adding fuel to the Crazy Fire that is burning out of control.
The sad thing is that some of the people everyone here hates from over there, because they are calling out discrepancies in statements or asking why some blindly accept the words of SoCal and Tom and Chana (and I don't even know who the hell all of the other people they are naming are) and want some truth, are on the same side of this mess. There are people who believe that Terri is involved. They are not all supporters just because they do not agree with what goes on here or on the way too many Supposed-To-Be-For-Kyron groups on FB that are nothing but platforms for crap slinging.
I don't post to or 'like' any of those groups and have now decided to stop posting anywhere in regards to Kyron's case because this has all gotten out of control and the focus was lost ages ago. This situation has become worse than a playground and as much as some posters here have tried to keep this all about Kyron.
Yes, SoCal intimated during the end of Jan search that Kyron has been found. No, she has never said that her information was wrong or acknowledged that she said it. Yes, there are secret groups where people might truly believe they are helping bring justice for Kyron, or they are just glory hunters. Who cares.
There is a little boy who has been missing for over 10 months. There are parents and siblings, friends and families out there who have lost their child/brother/nephew/grandson/friend. It is time to get over yourselves and remember who actually matters here. Stop playing games with each other, with the FB crazies and the average member of the board to isn't 'in the know'. Please. For Kyron, if not for yourself and your own family members.
SoCal - or whomever else has access - please delete my account from this forum.
Scamgirl, is there a way to email you?
ReplyDeleteAnon, there's a "contact me" button on the top right of this page. Click that and send me an email. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI believe you are correct except the most important part. Kyron is ALIVE!
ReplyDeleteI 100% believe they are trying to get the tips themselves, they allow the person on the KYRON PAGES to state their (my) tips. Then they say a ton of bad sh*t and make up lies about the person (myself), call them every name in the book and convince the rest of the group you're a liar and a bad person. Then they block you so you can't let anyone know youre really not a crazy person. Just a person who was/is trying to help bring Kyron home. KYRON HORMAN WORLD SOLDIERS administrator is Stacey Morris who now goes by Stacey Green. She is in NO WAY trying to help find Kyron. I KNOW this because I had REAL INFORMATION TO WHERE KYRON WENT AFTER HE WENT MISSING AND WHERE HE IS TODAY. AFTER TELLING EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT I COULD FIND AND STILL KYRON ISN'T HOME. MY LAST BIT OF HOPE WAS WHEN I FOUND KYRON HORMANS WORLD SOLDIERS. Finally there was hope again. Because frankly it's doesn't appear the police have done anything, with the information I have provided to LE, Kyron should be found by now.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, I was happy to find the KHWS PAGE on Facebook. I thought for sure the page would be connected to kyrons family and I would be able to finally after 6 years be able to tell Desiree where to find Kyron.
I have tons of evidence and proof to support what im saying.
Bottom line is Kyron is alive and well and appeared to be happy and well taken care of.
And anyone v who believes the PURE BS BEHIND THOSE KYRON HORMAN PAGES HAVE ALL LOST HOPE IN FINDING KYRON ALIVE. ITS VERY SAD TO SEE HOW MANY THOUSAND PEOPLE HAVE LOST HOPE IN FINDING KYRON. THEY ARE ALL TOO BUSY TRYING TO SLANDER, STALK, AND RUIN TERRI'S LIFE RATHER THAN FINDING KYRON ALIVE. I wonder how that makes him feel????
All these people choose to believe the MEDIA over the true FACTS and evidence. Im not a SUPPORTER OF TERRIS, Nor a TERRI HORMAN HATER. I AM TRYING TO BRING KYRON HOME OR UNDERSTAND THE REASON HE DISAPPEARED JUNE 4, 2010.
Wow!
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